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Shadows Of Empire: The Manley Family in Colonial America

The Lloyd Manley Genealogical Archive (LMGA)

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You can view the master index to the LMGA here

Please send offers for exchange of sources to brucemanley31061@yahoo.com

A list of good (and some not so good) genealogy libraries can be found here.

A bibliography (just starting) with links to download primary sources can be found here.

Individual analyses of the pedigree based on the LMGA index are MOST welcomed and part of the reason for sharing all this!

 

 Being a novice at this gig I personally spent over a thousand dollars and hours of work debunking a sincerely believed myth solely because I couldn’t find the original source of the information. After finally tracing the myth back to an anonymous, un-sourced posting with the Church of Jesus Christ-Latter Day Saints I confirmed what I had by then suspected; that it was indeed a myth. With good intent but ill effect it is still being repeated on the internet ad nausea today. So, I’ve created some ground rules for myself to protect people like me who might run into that sort of thing. Any information that furthers my research, and for which I can reciprocate with information of my own, is greatly appreciated. I only ask that if you use any information I forward to you that you reference it to the LMGA so that others may trace your steps and readily clear out any myths or fictions before beginning serious research. I will do the same for any sources you provide.

 

The main purpose of the LMGA was to determine the origins and antecedents of a Jonathan Manley, Senior of Warren co., KY who lived there from about 1805 to 1825. Information germane to that goal is especially valuable. I probably cannot offer much assistance with post-colonial genealogy.

 

 For the reasons aforementioned, I must unfortunately decline offers of information for which a primary source for it cannot be readily located or produced (hearsay). I welcome offers of transcriptions of primary sources only if performed by a duly appointed official of a legally constituted court, Church official or government official with jurisdiction and authority to so. Unfortunately I must decline offers of bible records, wills, accounts, etc. transcribed by individual persons, and for which a true likeness of the original cannot be readily produced or located and for which a public archival reference is not supplied. For photographs please reference, if known, the photographer, place and time the photograph was taken as well as identities of all persons in the photograph. Please use full legal names with maiden names if known. Please do not reference any material in exchange to the LDS library, regardless of the nature of the evidence (complicit actors in the mess I described above). A list of good (and some not so good) genealogy libraries can be found here.

 

News:

 

18 August, 2006 - James Blanks, Blanks family and ancestors had long ties to Charles City co., VA dating back to late 1600’s

 

I’ve searched two genealogy libraries since my last news piece and found, to my dismay, that there were few if any indices on Charles City co., VA at either library (only one index covered the relevant time period and it indexed only a tiny fraction of extant records). If anyone has access to the library at Ft. Wayne, IN please let me know. In the meantime, I’m going to do some interlibrary loans on the crucial indices to see if I can locate Jonathan Manley in that county. Confirming Jonathan’s presence in Charles City co., VA may require another trip to the Library of Virginia and a look at the tithe tables. My day job is very flexible but I’ll still have to work another trip into my schedule. I’ll post the date when/if I need to go back to Richmond. In the meantime I’ll be updating the index with the new information I got (mostly on James Blanks) from the libraries and moving the site to a new home on rootsweb. I will leave a link here to that new site. “Any and all” record types are worthwhile but the sweet spot will be marriage bonds from about 1766 to 1776 at Charles City co., VA, which is the time and place I think Jonathan and Nancy married. Secondary to that will be any record revealing the existence of a Jonathan Manley, Senior (or just one recorded there earlier) at Charles City co., VA. That one record would line up the entire puzzle. I’ll keep you posted on what I find - I’m tempted to just go to Ft. Wayne, IN next week!

 

15 August, 2006 - Jonathan Manley, Sr. of Warren co., KY may not have originated with Potomac Manley line

 

The account record of John Manley of Prince George’s co., MD arrived yesterday from the MD State Archives. It was a surprise and probably raises more questions than it answers. Normally an account record lists the names of the lawful heirs to an estate. In the late 1700’s it would at least name the eldest male and widow. This account names only the apparent widow, Elizabeth Manley. We know from the deed record that Elizabeth Manley had an apparent eldest male child named John Manley to whom she gave the inventoried items on 12 December, 1785. The account was done in an orphans (orphans Judge Joseph Beall) court and she asked for an allowance from the estate (presumably for rearing a minor thence to avoid an orphanage). Moreover, John Manley appears to have died not in 1783 but on (27 March 1781, 27 May 1781). All this strongly suggests that John Manley was a very young man and it seems highly unlikely that a man who had to have been born before 1730 would be having his first male child in the 1770s. This coupled with the locating of Nancy Blanks Manley at Charles City co., VA is beginning to suggest a paradigm shift. A statewide trace prior to 1787 on the combination ‘Nancy Manley’ (Nancey Manley - Nancy Manly - Nancey Manly) in WV, VA, PA, DE, MD, NC and SC resulted in the one hit aforementioned There was also the later hit in 1803 in which the WV court clerk unambiguously calls her Nancy Manley wife of Jonathan Manley (“Jonathan Manley and his wife Nancy Manley”) three times. I now have more new records (previously unknown) on Jonathan Manley, about a dozen, than I have on any one Manley in St. Mary’s co., MD. Yet with half as many records I can at least guess what the family connections were. With Jonathan I can find no candidate in the area that would fit the description of father or mother. Everyone is accounted for. Common sense and experience in colonial records tells me that given these facts he probably was not from that area. There are really two types of records we’re talking about here. The first is merely the kind that shows somebody exists at a time and place (what I’m referring to) and the second is the type that demonstrates familial relations (which do NOT always exist). Records of the first kind DO exist and if someone is there for at least 5 years SOMETHING will show up. This pattern holds for Jonathan Manley quite well all the way back to 1776 at MD - I have a more or less continuous record of where he was and when. Neither he nor his parents were in MD prior to 1771 (1776 - 5 yrs). The John Manley who died in 1781, the last candidate to establish that flow of evidence, was the right age to be Jonathan’s brother, not father. I’ve turned the entire state of MD upside down and shaken it and there is no trace of an older Jonathan Manley or other suitable Manley there. Perhaps Jonathan and Thomas were nearest kin to John Manley because they were brothers and perhaps these three brothers originated from the Charles City co., VA area, went to MD to fight in the revolutionary war, little John R. was born there, brother John was killed, brother Thomas appeared at Warren co., KY on 1820 (only trace I’ve gotten on a Thomas Manley of the appropriate age) and Jonathan moved on to WV. The war service would have been through local militias (Jonathan 1776 Bladensburg - earliest MD hit) and not the Continental Army. That fits the evidence a lot better. There are other known Manley clans closer to Charles City co., VA that could be related. Origins in VA may also explain why John R.s children seemed to think he was born in VA instead of MD. John R. was twice right (USC 1850, 1860), but the children confused it with his father’s birthplace as John R. would have been born in as little as 2 years after arriving from VA. It may also be the case that Jonathan’s father was indeed Jonathan (he signed the Oath of Fidelity as “Junior”), but I’ll hold out for the possibility that it was John because of nickname similiarities. I think his father was one or the other as no other related John or Jonathan Senior has been found in MD at that time (1778).  As soon as I can get my hands on the indexes for Charles City co., VA I’ll update again. The pedigree on this site was entirely dependent on what seemed like the reasonable assumption that Jonathan Manley originated with Potomac Manleys. I will soon be posting many more primary sources for download - hopefully this weekend. KEEP CHECKING as I think we’re entering truly new territory now.